Aaron Zelin of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy talks with NPR's Leila Fadel about the group that now controls Syria and why it's so hard to shed the label of "terrorists." ...

As Syria emerges from civil war ... And so it is important to have both of these elements. LEILA FADEL, HOST: You know, I covered Iraq for a long time, and so much that Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham ...

In Syria, new leaders are settling in ... DANIEL ESTRIN, BYLINE: Happy New Year, Leila. FADEL: Hadeel, let's start with you. These comments were made to you in a recent interview you did with ...

FADEL: Syria has never recognized Israel as a state ... the Israeli foreign ministry said that it rejected any overture from HTS. And, Leila, like you said, it was remarkable - for two reasons.

Leila Fadel is a national correspondent for NPR based in Los Angeles, covering issues of culture, diversity, and race. Most recently, she was NPR's international correspondent based in Cairo and ...

FADEL: I wonder, as somebody who studied this group and studied Syria, the consequences of taking them off too early. ZELIN: I mean, I think one of the issues that many people are worried about is ...